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FileExporter beta feature

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Coming soon: the beta feature FileExporter

A new beta feature will soon be released on all wikis: The FileExporter. It allows exports of files from a local wiki to Wikimedia Commons, including their file history and page history. Which files can be exported is defined by each wiki's community: Please check your wiki's configuration file if you want to use this feature.

The FileExporter has already been a beta feature on mediawiki.org, meta.wikimedia, deWP, faWP, arWP, koWP and on wikisource.org. After some functionality was added, it's now becoming a beta feature on all wikis. Deployment is planned for January 16. More information can be found on the project page.

As always, feedback is highly appreciated. If you want to test the FileExporter, please activate it in your user preferences. The best place for feedback is the central talk page. Thank you from Wikimedia Deutschland's Technical Wishes project.

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) 16:41, ngày 14 tháng 1 năm 2019 (ICT)

No editing for 30 minutes on 17 January

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You will not be able to edit the wikis for up to 30 minutes on 17 January 07:00 UTC. This is because of a database problem that has to be fixed immediately. You can still read the wikis. Some wikis are not affected. They don't get this message. You can see which wikis are not affected on this page. Most wikis are affected. The time you can not edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /Johan (WMF)

01:55, ngày 17 tháng 1 năm 2019 (ICT)

Talk to us about talking

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"icon depicting two speech Bubbles"

The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.

We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.

We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.

We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.

You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:

  1. First, sign up your group here.
  2. Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
  3. Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
    1. When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
    2. What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
    3. What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
    4. What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
    5. What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
  4. Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.

You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.

Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.

You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.

Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.

Trizek (WMF) 22:01, ngày 21 tháng 2 năm 2019 (ICT)

Read-only mode for up to 30 minutes on 11 April

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17:56, ngày 8 tháng 4 năm 2019 (ICT)

Wikimedia Foundation Medium-Term Plan feedback request

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Xin hãy giúp dịch sang ngôn ngữ của bạn

The Wikimedia Foundation has published a Medium-Term Plan proposal covering the next 3–5 years. We want your feedback! Please leave all comments and questions, in any language, on the talk page, by April 20. Cảm ơn! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:35, ngày 13 tháng 4 năm 2019 (ICT)

Re-thinking where to put the focus on - the collaborative creation of the "List of articles every Wikivoyage should have" on Meta

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One of the issues with any wiki site is that unless the editor community agrees upon where it is mostly important to put most efforts, usually everyone just improves random articles without knowing what to prioritize... this becomes a bigger issue with the smaller communities where if there are only two or three active editors... they would usually create mostly random stubs that aren’t of much interest to their readers, just because most people wouldn’t know on the top of the head what travel destinations are of most interest to people.

In order to tackle this issue, some wiki sites develop a vital/core article list based on the consensus in that community, which could be used both as a way to focus most efforts where they are most needed (for example, by encouarging the editors to make as many Guide articles and Star articles from all the articles on the core articles list) but also as a way to encourage the other parallel editions of that wiki to create the articles deemed to be the most vital articles as well.

I especially like Wikipedia’s vital articles list... but also Meta’s List of articles every Wikipedia should have.

I think that the existence of such a list, that might even be of use here at the Vietnamese Wikivoyage, would be especially important as it would inspire all the smaller editions of Wikivoyage to make sure that the articles which are of the most interest to their readers are the ones in which most efforts are directed towards + that a priority would be given to improving the quality of the most prominent and sought after articles.

As such I decided to plunge forward and create a draft for this list at Meta. It currently includes exactly 1,000 articles. The list isn't finished! Please help us improve the list by going over it, making note of the articles you think are missing from it, and suggesting them at the discussion page of that page at meta. ויקיג'אנקי (thảo luận) 20:38, ngày 15 tháng 6 năm 2019 (ICT)

Editing News #1—July 2019

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

Edit Cards

Toolbar with menu opened

This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases

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The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:

  1. Section editing
    • The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
    • The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
  2. Loading overlay
    • The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects

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This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.

  • Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
  • Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
  • Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
  • Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

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  • Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to the team about how editing can be improved.
  • Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more

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The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

01:32, ngày 24 tháng 7 năm 2019 (+07)

Update on the consultation about office actions

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Hello all,

Last month, the Wikimedia Foundation's Trust & Safety team announced a future consultation about partial and/or temporary office actions. We want to let you know that the draft version of this consultation has now been posted on Meta.

This is a draft. It is not intended to be the consultation itself, which will be posted on Meta likely in early September. Please do not treat this draft as a consultation. Instead, we ask your assistance in forming the final language for the consultation.

For that end, we would like your input over the next couple of weeks about what questions the consultation should ask about partial and temporary Foundation office action bans and how it should be formatted. Please post it on the draft talk page. Our goal is to provide space for the community to discuss all the aspects of these office actions that need to be discussed, and we want to ensure with your feedback that the consultation is presented in the best way to encourage frank and constructive conversation.

Please visit the consultation draft on Meta-wiki and leave your comments on the draft’s talk page about what the consultation should look like and what questions it should ask.

Thank you for your input! -- The Trust & Safety team 15:03, ngày 16 tháng 8 năm 2019 (+07)

New tools and IP masking

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21:19, ngày 21 tháng 8 năm 2019 (+07)

The consultation on partial and temporary Foundation bans just started

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-- Kbrown (WMF) 00:14, ngày 1 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]

Feedback wanted on Desktop Improvements project

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Xin chào. Nhóm Readers Web tại Quỹ Wikimedia sẽ chú trọng vào việc cải thiện giao diện máy tính để bàn trong thời gian vài năm, nhằm mục đích tăng khả năng sử dụng mà không xóa chức năng nào. Các nỗ lực của người tình nguyện gây cảm hứng cho chúng tôi nhưng cho đến nay chỉ có thể tạo ra các tiện ích và kịch bản địa phương, bản đề nghị, và giao diện (skin) tùy chỉnh. Chúng tôi muốn bắt đầu quá trình mang một số thay đổi nào vào trải nghiệm mặc định tại tất cả các dự án Wikimedia.

Chúng tôi hiện tại đang nghiên cứu cho dự án này và kêu gọi các ý kiến cải thiện và phản hồi về các đề nghị và mô hình hiện tại. Cho đến này, chúng tôi đã phỏng vấn thành viên cộng đồng tại Wikimania. Chúng tôi đã biên soạn danh sách các nỗ lực của tình nguyện và Quỹ Wikimedia về điều này. Chúng tôi đang tìm cách thực hiện các thay đổi được gợi ý.

Chúng tôi mời các bạn phản hồi ý kiến về các điều sau:

  • Nhận ra các điểm trọng tâm cho dự án mà chúng tôi chưa nghĩ đến.
  • Mở rộng danh sách tiện ích và kịch bản người dùng có liên quan đến cải thiện giao diện trên máy tính để bàn. Nếu bạn biết đến tiện ích hoặc kịch bản nào có ích, xin cho chúng tôi biết.
  • Phản hồi về các đề nghị và mô hình chúng tôi đã biên soạn cho đến nay.

Chúng tôi cũng muốn biên soạn danh sách các wiki muốn thử nghiệm các thay đổi của dự án này. Lúc khi chúng tôi sẵn sàng bắt đầu xây dựng, các wiki này sẽ có quyền truy cập các thay đổi trước các wiki kia.

Khi nào gửi phản hồi, xin hãy nhớ các mục đích của dự án:

  • Làm cho người đọc dễ tập trung sự chú ý vào nội dung
  • Cho phép truy cập các tác vụ hằng ngày một cách tiện hơn (ví dụ tìm kiếm, thay đổi ngôn ngữ, sửa đổi)
  • Sắp xếp mọi tính năng vào nơi hợp lý có ích
  • Thống nhất giao diện với các nền tảng khác – Web di động và ứng dụng di động
  • Loại trừ lộn xộn
  • Sửa soạn mai mốt phát triển

Cũng như các ràng buộc sau:

  • Không nghịch ngợm với nội dung: chúng tôi sẽ không lo lắng về các bản mẫu định kiểu hoặc cấu trúc nội dung trang
  • Không loại trừ chức năng nào: các chức năng có thể di chuyển, nhưng tất cả các mục chuyển hướng và chức năng mặc định sẽ còn lại
  • Không thay đổi bố cục quá mức: chúng tôi có phương pháp tiến hóa đối với các thay đổi và muốn những người đọc và sửa đổi tiếp tục cảm thấy quen thuộc với trang

Xin hãy gửi ý kiến nào đó (trong ngôn ngữ nào đó) tại mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements

Sau khi vòng phản hồi này, chúng tôi định xây dựng mô hình các thay đổi gợi ý dựa trên các ý kiến phản hồi chúng tôi nhận được. Chúng tôi sẽ liên lạc với các bạn lần nữa sau đây để yêu cầu phản hồi về mô hình này.

Cảm ơn! Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

14:15, ngày 16 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)

Ledinhthang: Xin cấp quyền BQV

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Hiện tại wikivoyage tiếng Việt đang bị IP phá hoại. Do đó, tôi xin được cấp quyền BQV tạm thời 3 tháng cho dự án này để hạn chế bớt các nội dung rác. Ledinhthang (thảo luận) 10:51, ngày 21 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]

Đồng ý

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  1.  Đồng ý Wikivoyage cần bảo quản viên. Mai Ngọc Xuân (thảo luận) 16:32, ngày 21 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]
  2.  Đồng ý Nhờ bạn hết Đông Minh (thảo luận) 17:39, ngày 22 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]
  3.  Đồng ý Mong bạn giúp đỡ. Hoang Dat (thảo luận) 07:59, ngày 23 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]
  4.  Đồng ý Những dự án anh em của Wikipedia cần được để tâm nhiều hơn Thanhdmh (thảo luận) 20:22, ngày 23 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]
  5.  Đồng ý Keo010122 (thảo luận) 11:33, ngày 27 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]
  6.  Đồng ý Ủng hộ bạn. Violetbonmua (thảo luận) 01:33, ngày 2 tháng 11 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]

Không đồng ý

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Ý kiến

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23:09, ngày 28 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help

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What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team wants your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk pages project

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The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor

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The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

What happens when you click on a link. The new Edit Card is bigger and has more options for editing links.
The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar.
  • In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
    • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
    • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
    • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
  • Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania

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The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

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  • Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
  • Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
  • Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The Editing team hopes to share results in November. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

18:13, ngày 29 tháng 10 năm 2019 (+07)

23:47, ngày 4 tháng 11 năm 2019 (+07)

Community Wishlist 2020

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The 2020 Community Wishlist Survey is now open! This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on November 11, 2019, or comment on other proposals to help make them better.

This year, we’re exclusively focusing on smaller projects (i.e., Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage, and Wikinews). We want to help these projects and provide meaningful improvements to diverse communities. If you’re a member of any of these projects, please participate in the survey! To submit proposals, see the guidelines on the survey page. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals!

IFried (WMF) 02:30, ngày 5 tháng 11 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]

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23:51, ngày 25 tháng 11 năm 2019 (+07)

Making the Content Translation Tool available for Wikivoyage

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I don't know if you all have ever tried Wikipedia's Content translation Tool, but i'll just say that this is a very strong tool that has helped the Wikipedia community translate A LOT of articles between the various Wikipedia editions (mostly translations of articles from the English Wikipedia to the smaller Wikipedia editions).

So far this tool is only used in Wikipedia.

As part of the current Community Wishlist Survey, a suggestion has been brought forward to make this tool available for all Wikivoyage editions as well:

meta:Community_Wishlist_Survey_2020/Wikivoyage/ContentTranslation_work_for_Wikivoyage#Voting

If you support making this tool available for Wikivoyage as well, please add your vote in that page. ויקיג'אנקי (thảo luận) 03:37, ngày 30 tháng 11 năm 2019 (+07)[trả lời]

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